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She sees me into a room, a boardroom. A swanky one. A large dark table stretches across the opulent room. The seats are all high back and they receive your weight with a familiar springy stoicism. One of them must cost like 50 big ones, seats so posh you can take them to dinner. Then there are these fancy phones on the table, about six of them. They look like they last rang in 2002. The windows are large and the blinds are open.  The AC is on and it frosts the tip of my nose.

“Would you like some newspapers?” the lady asks officiously. I say, yes, thanks. She then effortlessly eases out of the room, like a ghost. I pick a seat that faces the door and wait. I put my phone on silent. I flip through my notepad; my handwriting is not any better than my daughter’s. I write down a few questions.

She returns with three newspapers and then asks; “would you like something to drink, tea, coffee?” To test if she isn’t a robot powered by efficiency I say, “A double whiskey on the rocks would be great, thanks.” She doesn’t laugh, neither does she chuckle. Her lips spread across thinly, which I imagine is how she smiles but it comes across like a snarl. But that’s not what amuses me, her answer does: “I’m sorry, we don’t have any alcohol.”

“I was only joking,” I smile but I can tell she doesn’t believe me, instead she nods curtly and says, “Mr X will be with you in a moment,” then she bundles out of the room, like mist under a door. It’s 8:45am. I’m 15mins early to interview some hot shot.

To earn my bacon, half the time all I seem to do is seduce men. I call them up. I introduce myself and I tell them that I want an interview.  Some will say cool and we will block a date. Others will keep me on hold and claim to check their diary but I suspect what they do is go back to some hot chic’s FB album then come back on and say, “Biko, my week is a mess. Can you call me on Friday we make a date?” Sure, Donald Trump.

Friday I will call and they won’t answer, instead they will send an sms, “Sorry, in a meeting, call you after.” They won’t call. I will give them a few days and call back. They will pick and say how sorry they are for not having returned my call and they will say they are leaving for SA the next day, “Do you mind calling me when I get back on Tuesday?” Sure, Trump, Tuesday it is.

Tuesday I will call and we will –hopefully – make a date. Other will not pick my calls and I will put them on an icebox to be called at a later date. That’s how it works when you chase CEOs; seducing a woman is easier.

I remember some years back I called Sir Charles Njonjo’s office a million times and wrote three emails requesting for an interview. I was given the royal run-around for three months before I finally started feeling like an unrelenting lover and gave up. Then one day, many months later, I’m in Samburu, for Rhino Charge, I see this chopper land on this strip and who comes out, Sir Charles!

So I run over, hat in hand, and introduce myself and as he shuffles for a waiting Land Cruiser I tell him I have been on his tail for ages and his office had been non-committal. Would he be kind as to grant me an interview?

As one of his people hold open the car door for him he stops and looks at me. I mean really looks at me and his eyes are all milky and gauging. His skin, my God, his skin looked like he showered in milk. He was old and his skin was creased but you could still smell money on him and his silent power. But he was decent; he held my shoulder with one gaunt hand and said, “When do you want this interview?” And I said, “Right here, sir, if it won’t be much trouble.” He laughed and asked me to go to his office on Monday first thing. Then he jumped into his air-conditioned juggernaut and soon disappeared in a cloud of dust.

When I showed up at his office in jeans, he handed me a good hiding about my sense of fashion. He said it was unprofessional to come to his office without a blazer. He said jeans wouldn’t cut it in his office. I said my “Yes, sir,” and “No, sir,” and “My apologies, sir” and got my one hour interview. He was charming and brilliant.

If it’s a big fish you learn to kiss ass when you want an interview badly. But there are small fries that imagine that they are the big deal, those I don’t waste time chasing because they need the publicity more. Eventually they always call or email. But women CEOs are the best, they don’t give you the run around, they will say, “Listen Biko, let’s do end week, a girl needs to have her hair done first.” And I will say, “What a girl does with her hair is no man’s business, but no Mohawk’s please.” They will laugh.

Anyway, back to the boardroom. For two months I had hounded this man I was waiting for. I had spoken to his communications guy a dozen times, sent emails to his PA, hell I had to refer them the section I write for them to see how harmless it was. He is the real deal. Finally they had balked. And now I’m here. He is known for his haughtiness, and his wealth. Bad combination.

At 9.15am, he pushes the door open and strolls in and I know immediately that he’s going to be trouble. His body language screamed, “I’m a very important man, I don’t need to be here, I have things to do.” I stand up and offer my hand and – with no eye contact – he offers a tepid handshake and growls, “ I hope this won’t take much of my time.”

I say no, I can wrap it up in 30mins, will that be okay? He stares at his watch, shakes his head, sighs and shrugs and leans back in his chair.  My first question rubs him the wrong way. I ask, “ What is the quality you miss the most in you before you became successful?” It’s a leading question, of course, one that thinly points to his total lack of humility.

But it’s not an unfair question, it’s just tactless. I needed to let him thaw first, draw him out then engage him. That question was somewhat threatening and threatening questions don’t get you far. But in my defence when you only have only 30mins you learn to cut to the chase and jump right into the main course. There is no time to ask about children and pets. Plus I didn’t want him getting too comfortable; when subjects get too comfortable they become a problem. They start controlling the interview.

Anyway, the wheels quickly started coming off. During the interview, he taps emails on his Blackberry and he picks calls. He doesn’t make bones about his disdain for common courtesies. And when I asked him how his childhood was, he says, “Why do you journalists bother with such old boring information?” and I’m tempted to tell him the only thing that had grown old and boring was his foul attitude, but I didn’t because I didn’t want him calling security. At some point he starts with the old subtle intimidation; trying to stare me down, condescendingly chortling at some of my questions and trailing off in the middle of sentence while he reads something from his phone. I felt like feeding him the newspapers. All was going south.

I didn’t mind these ill mannerisms too much because they give an article character. I had an intro ready in my head half way through the interview and intro he wasn’t going to be excited about when I finally wrote it.

Here is where the camel’s back breaks: halfway through the interview he picks a call (without excusing himself) and steps out of the room. I’m horrified at his rudeness. He is gone for 5mins and leaves me there wondering why I was tolerating this prick. I calculate how much I was getting for the article against the amount of anger and poison this guy was pushing in my blood and it didn’t make sense. So I decide it wasn’t going to fly. It’s never that serious.

He walks back in and of course doesn’t bother to apologize, instead while taking his seat he says, “That was my fundi asking for directions to my house, so where were we?”

I tell him delicately, but firmly, that I don’t think he has shown any respect, or interest, for the interview and that I don’t see any point to continue with the interview. “Aren’t you overreacting?” he asks and I say maybe but that the zeal for the interview has fizzled out, I’m sorry. He shrugs like he doesn’t give a rat’s, so I stand up and thank him for his time and I wish him a good day and I leave him in the boardroom, reading something awfully important from his Blackberry.

At the ground floor I’m stopped by security. The big shot’s office wants me to go back upstairs. Of course I don’t go back, because what was he going to give me, sweets to placate me?

That guy left a very bad taste in my mouth. For the whole week, I wondered what kind of life the people who worked for him led. If he could treat me – someone who was adding his PR value – like a bum, I wondered how he treated people who couldn’t do anything for him. Here is the thing, I remember that this guy wore cologne that smelled like sunrise but his overbearing arrogance and ego eventually overpowered the smell of that cologne. Too much ego reeks like a carcass.

This story is not about anything other than my letting out steam.

I’m good now.

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        1. Well how about we make this BIG meet up,drink up and tear his character to pisses.As they say sometimes “age shows up alone without maturity.Am in on that drink if allowed.

          1. “pieces” #JustSaying. Unless you mean you want to just piss on his character!!!! In other news…Yay! Go for that drink-up and make sure you tell the rest of us about it.

          2. Murasta,
            Typos i was meant to say tear his character to pieces and literally piss on it after the drinks.

  1. Today’s post struck a chord with me. I had a similar experience once. We were conducting interviews for synovate and our target respondents were consultant doctors. The sheer arrogance some of these Messeurs-High-And-Mighty was astounding but not nearly as shocking. Couldn’t quit like you did. Wish I had, though. Wasn’t worth it.
    Keep them coming.

  2. I respect a man who can vent because i believe it when you say you are good. To give the guy a break, he got power and forgot other people perceive him! I pity the guy.

  3. This reminded me of some moneyed guy I went on a date with, I have never seen a man so full of himself, I paid for my drink and walked out on him..He should know people.:-)

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  4. “Here is the thing, I remember that this guy wore cologne that smelled like sunrise but his overbearing arrogance and ego eventually overpowered the smell of that cologne. Too much ego reeks like a carcass..” Deep. I like your personality Biko.Never entertaining pricks no matter how big they are,and this you do in line with what you believe,values that define the real man in you.The zulu way.

  5. LOL! Whoooooooosaaaa! Whooooooooosaaaa!

    Remember you said in one of you posts last year, the true character of a man is defined by how he treats people who are,lack of a better word, lesser than him?

    Have a steam-free week, will you? 🙂

  6. The man sounds like a real donkey ass.I still say we know who he is and tear his character to pieces he should that the e-world is the last frontier and some of us live here and can break him.

  7. I think you politely ending the interview and walking out will bug the heck out of the guy. I don’t think he is used to that happening to him hence why he asked the security guy to call you back in. No need to expose him as some have suggested above, life will get him back sooner or later.

  8. power corrupts everything about some people!u talking about some hot shot mr.money bags heeh i see it everywhere even from a person who aint rich but treat people like trash just koz they are in leadership!talk about maskini akipata matako kulia bwata….

  9. Too many assholes out there reeking of arrogance and self importance yet we shall all lay comatose six feet under whether you are Donald Trump or Donald Kamau. The sun has never risen from anyone’s behind, there is no need to feel that important.

  10. For walking out on the prick, you get my respect Mr.B. Idiots that think the sun rises out of their bums need a reality check once in a while.

  11. nice article biko…and personally approve the notion of feeding him the newspapers…its just disappointing that u din’t

  12. Bring’s to mind the saying that if I was a volcano, I’d be erupting in a moment like that. Great venting piece.

    PS the mention of the posh seats reminds me of the debacle of the much too overpriced seats for the ‘law-breakers’……

  13. You told us when we reopened High School this year Biko….Ask, Demand…get angry…….Bravo for walking out on that pig.

    i can only imagine how his face dropped when he realized you had matched out and no intention of going back…….

    Whom did he think he is nway……. ‘Nonsense’ ( with a nollywood accent)

  14. I have to concur, Biko, that no amount of money can supersede the intricate value of personal dignity and when a contest of money and personal value occurs, walking out is not only the best choice, it should be the only choice; of course this will be all to the hot shot’s chagrin.

  15. Biko,that dude(yes i said it) is lucky that it was you,had it been a woman he would have been poured on cold water to bring down his ego a couple of notches lower!!

  16. I have to admit that I have been on the other side in this picture. No, I am not a big shot (obviously),but every once in a while those research fellas show up at my doorstep to ask me how many cows I keep in my 2nd floor apartment. I always feel like it is my duty to make them work for the 15 minutes of my time they insist on taking.

    In my defence, though, I have never been rude to a journalist. (That, of course, has nothing to do with the number of journalists who have interviewed me!) And my (imaginary) flunkies have instructions to make me drop everything in the event that someone from the press wants to interview me.

  17. I have always wanted to read an inside view to an interview from the interviewer’s perspective so this didn’t feel random at all. Very enjoyable read. Hopeful you’ll do more on the same, because your delivery of it was great. I feel as though I was the one being disrespected and couldn’t wait to walk out on the whole thing. Keep on. (Are there any positive interviews you’ve had? That would be interesting. Mention names. Njonjo sounds cool).

  18. Such people more often than not suffer from low self esteem. And despite everything they have, they still envy the simpler folk. Your genuine smiles, how comfy you are in non-pompous surroundings, how your world is not fake….

  19. Thats the problem when one has to apply his trade for money and not for passion. Am sure if you were not being paid for the interviews you wouldnt do most of them. But man must eat!

  20. If that isn’t Miguna Miguna, i’ll pinch my own nose for not knowing people.
    Kudos Biko for not tolerating the imbecile.

  21. I am not suprised that this guy doesn’t know people. Man it’s thumbs up to you for letting him gnaw at your heels. Sometimes one just can’t stand crass A’oles.

  22. I won’t suck up to yu, as people here have. Aren’t journalists supposed to be proffessional? Aren’t yu supposed to separate yourself from the story? Should this guy have carried himself any different because he was in the mighty presence of one Biko Zulu?

    *pinching my own nose* If this rant says something, it’s that yu need a reminding of the role yu play and your supposed impatiality to it.. For next, yu’ll be ranting that Al-Shabaab should hold their fire coz yu are about to fart.

    1. maybe yu should learn how to spell ‘you’ first then ‘you’ can comment on this artice..

      you..you..you

    2. Wololololo !! It is never this serious:) 🙂 rumor has it you did not read the piece.
      Now i have written this,then i have remembered Biko does not need the gang to go after your jugular he he he!! -That is on a light note before you launch an an attack on project44!

      1. Two wrongs never made a right.. Just because a guy’s character is flawed, is no reason to walk out on an interview. The masses will never know what would have transpired next, chances are that the picture painted of this interview will be tainted with bitterness n’ more important, CEO’s now know Biko suffers from PMS; t’will make it even tougher for him to get an interview.

        In any case isn’t diversity the beauty that is life. Without the eccentrics wouldn’t this life be a boring one? Take for example Mwa.. Luv or hate my YU, sibabaiki 🙂

  23. That guy is absolutely bure kabisa (ABK)!!!

    I have no further comment,except to say i agree with all who have said that he sounds like the nose pinching type he he he ,but hopefully not gun brandishing type of fellow!!

  24. I respect respectable journalists. Its a brave path to follow. I shake in my boots imagining myself in the interviewers position. Identifying a worthy interviewee, the approach or hunt i could say, wit & tolerance. Serious respect

  25. And Biko I think you could see this as a foreshadow. You have come from somewhere and going other places greater. A heads up of how ugly pomposity could look in a designer suit. I believe. All the best

  26. Humility clearly is a virtue he should learn…and anyway-it is the test of all good manners (which our mothers were and still are going on about 🙂 – bless ’em!!) being patient with bad to the worst of manners and the good news is you passed!!! His life is probably crap anyways, even with his 50 big ones worth of chairs. NKT.

  27. Lol! Shame on him for wasting ur time! But steam, Biko, you always have, no? Lol! Well, if it was a lady you were interviewing, she’d put her phone on silence or give her PA to answer it. For most of the interviews I’ve done with the CEO’s in different sectors, they r very courteous n apologetic if they run late. 🙁 better luck next time, sir!

  28. so i work for a guy who behaves as such. He’s in business. we spray his office once people leave it because,”watu hii nairobi hawajui kuoga.” Until we lost 7m, because none of his friends or business partners wanted to approach him about the fake deal we entered into…am good now.

  29. Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind. Bernard Baruch, Dr. Seuss

  30. This has that Kabogo man written all over it..that shameless pompous rear..was among his campaign staff for the by elections lets just say he needs the good lord!

  31. Big shots to make an article! No wonder you get none. Start with that mechanic who fixed your side mirror before i pinch you!

  32. One more thing to respect Sir Charles Njonjo. He has principles and opinions and cares to follow them. I admire the man, served him beer once and he was unfailingly polite but mentioned to the restaurant manager that it is wrong for him to allow a trainee (wearing a trainee badge) to serve a VIP. Unless he wasnt that important a client and his weekly business lunches did not mean enough to the organisation. That is a guy you got to admire he puts you straight, ensures you learn manners and some business sense without being arrogant and yet ensures that tomorrow you will remember his order of a cold Tusker malt.

  33. Kudos for walking out.
    This arrogant doctor I work with waltz into the unit the other day, goes into a patient room, keeps flipping his hair back while the patient talks to him, then comes back to the desk and ignores the people around it. He is about to seat when one of the nurses shouts “watch out!!” he stops mid-air, turns to see what’s happening & he demands to know whats wrong. The nurse casually states “oh, its just that you almost sat on your ego”. Ahem, arrogant people are everywhere not just Nairobi.